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		<title>$30 to $40?  Damn he got off easy!</title>
		<link>http://pueblonative.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/30-to-40-damn-he-got-off-easy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Ricardo Garcia]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Child Support Payments Taken From Wrong Man
Of course I&#8217;m joking with that headline, but compared to how much they take out of my paycheck each and every two weeks, it&#8217;s relatively tame.  Still, a penny unearned is a penny unearned.  I think Mr. Garcia also learned what bureaucrats and cockroaches have in common: [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=185&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.newschannel5.tv/2007/12/7/983562/Child-Support-Payments-Taken-From-Wrong-Man">Child Support Payments Taken From Wrong Man</a></p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;m joking with that headline, but compared to how much they take out of my paycheck each and every two weeks, it&#8217;s relatively tame.  Still, a penny unearned is a penny unearned.  I think Mr. Garcia also learned what bureaucrats and cockroaches have in common: it takes the light (flashlight or publicity) to  really get them moving.  So keep publicizing those tales to the press.  It only takes one brick to bring the whole thing tumbling down on them.</p>
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		<title>No, here&#8217;s where you&#8217;re &#8216;100 percent wrong&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://pueblonative.wordpress.com/2007/12/04/no-heres-where-youre-100-percent-wrong/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Shanna Flowers]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Virginia]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give gift of child support at holidays &#8211; Roanoke.com
E-mail sent to Ms. Flowers.  And as always, if she replies, I publish.
Ms. Flowers:
I caught your column regarding child support and thought I would clarify where you are &#8216;100 percent wrong&#8217;.
&#8220;In 2006, &#8220;tax intercepts&#8221; collected $33 million from federal returns and $2 million from the state. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=184&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.roanoke.com/columnists/flowers/wb/142132">Give gift of child support at holidays &#8211; Roanoke.com</a></p>
<p>E-mail sent to Ms. Flowers.  And as always, if she replies, I publish.</p>
<p>Ms. Flowers:</p>
<p>I caught your column regarding child support and thought I would clarify where you are &#8216;100 percent wrong&#8217;.<br />
&#8220;In 2006, &#8220;tax intercepts&#8221; collected $33 million from federal returns and $2 million from the state. The money was forwarded to the children to whom it was owed.&#8221;<br />
Not if they were on welfare it wasn&#8217;t.  In those cases, the majority of the child support went back to the state, not the child.  And we&#8217;re not even looking at the interest and penalty the state profits from using children as skillfully as a modern day Fagan.  Don&#8217;t just believe me, check out <a href="http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14474">http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=14474</a><br />
And we look at the picture that you paint of greedy men evading child support (and if you want another idea for a column, check out why the percentage is 88/12 in terms of child support.  If I said that something was 88/12 black/white, wouldn&#8217;t you want to know why that was).   You don&#8217;t seem to even mention the parents who were jailed or sued:</p>
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<li>Because their boss kept the money http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/14763949/detail.html</li>
<li>Because they were kept from earning a income by being wrongly imprisoned: http://citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200771024048&amp;source=rss</li>
<li>When the child wasn&#8217;t even theirs http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/11/paternity.cases/index.html</li>
<li>When they were disabled after 13 years of prompt child support payments</li>
<p>We can go on and on and on here.  The point being that your picture is slightly askew.  Child support is something that is being used by the state as its golden goose and they are sacrificing men of all races, ages, and incomes in order to get at the cash.  Here&#8217;s another idea: try to live off of $200 net, play by the rules and tell them where you are so they can fleece you, and have the state take your tax intercept to pay themselves&#8230;ERR the welfare cost of the children.</p>
<p>John Meyer<br />
Non Custodial<br />
PS, if you&#8217;re wanting to find where I am, check out http://www.ncprevue.com/blog.  I&#8217;m not hiding; I&#8217;m fighting for NCPs.  And as to the cellphones: I have one word for anybody that values freedom in Virginia: Tracfone.</p>
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		<title>Well if he&#8217;s that stressed, maybe he needs a new job</title>
		<link>http://pueblonative.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/well-if-hes-that-stressed-maybe-he-needs-a-new-job/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jailings Over Ringing Cell Get Judge Ousted &#8211; News Story &#8211; WFTV Orlando
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I think this is a perfect metaphor for what is happening in our family court system, by the way.  You have our judicial system snapping over one person then summarily throwing all of the defendants behind bars without a fair trial for [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=183&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<p>I think this is a perfect metaphor for what is happening in our family court system, by the way.  You have our judicial system snapping over one person then summarily throwing all of the defendants behind bars without a fair trial for their own behavior.  The only difference here is that the thought of getting his picture plastered in the paper for this asinine action jerked the judge back into reality.  In the family court system in general, they don&#8217;t get either the publicity or the point of their inane actions that make men prisoners or paupers while lining their own pockets and doing nothing for the children.</p>
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		<title>Knock me over with a feather!</title>
		<link>http://pueblonative.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/knock-me-over-with-a-feather/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Carver County]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carver County gives aid, not jail, to deadbeats
For the first time ever, I am going to give props to a county for it&#8217;s child support collection efforts.  Why?  Because that&#8217;s the way you do it.  When you offer a carrot, you get a hell of a lot more done than you do [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=182&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.startribune.com/west/story/1579811.html">Carver County gives aid, not jail, to deadbeats</a></p>
<p>For the first time ever, I am going to give props to a county for it&#8217;s child support collection efforts.  Why?  Because that&#8217;s the way you do it.  When you offer a carrot, you get a hell of a lot more done than you do when you keep swinging that stick of yours.  Congratulations and recognition goes out to Carver County.  Keep that story bookmarked as an example of how you are supposed to do things.</p>
<p>Granted, the story doesn&#8217;t begin to cover the other issues many non custodial parents face (increased parenting time, etc), but one idea first and this is a good idea.  The only &#8220;problem&#8221; I would see is getting non custodial to trust the county enough to use it.  Many of us have not experienced this sort of humanity for government, so rebuilding that trust is going to be hard.  But if Carver County keeps this effort up maybe it can be rebuilt.</p>
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		<title>One situation you damn well can&#8217;t laugh about</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Baby Grace]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been following the Baby Grace story for as long as I can or at least as long as I can go without puking up my lunch. I would never make light of this case or try to use such a horrible, reprehensible story to score political points in the battle for father&#8217;s and ncp&#8217;s [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=181&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I&#8217;ve been following the Baby Grace story for as long as I can or at least as long as I can go without puking up my lunch. I would never make light of this case or try to use such a horrible, reprehensible story to score political points in the battle for father&#8217;s and ncp&#8217;s rights (two things that go hand in hand too often in this country), but this is a warning to every NCP and father out there: stay involved in your kids lives for the sake of your kids lives!  Don&#8217;t give up, don&#8217;t surrender.</p>
<p>And this is a perfect case of why we need both parents involved in a child&#8217;s life beyond a mother and a walking ATM machine.  We need it at the very least for the child&#8217;s safety so both parents can check each other if they are unintentionally stepping out of bounds.  By the way, I do NOT believe that is what happened here.</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t help but notice that the mainstream media is downplaying the fact that  she filed domestic violence charges against the father (which I&#8217;m sure we can all believe from a person who participated in preparing false papers).    She makes the accusation, settles with the father, than moves to Texas.  I don&#8217;t know about the rest of you, but if somebody accused me of that I wouldn&#8217;t settle.  Write that down somewhere and print up a copy of this news story to remind you why.</p>
<p>If you have the stomach for it, here&#8217;s the affadavit from the mother:<br />
<a href="http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/us/0711/pdf/zeigleraffidavit.pdf">http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/us/0711/pdf/zeigleraffidavit.pdf</a>
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		<title>This is just plain jacked up</title>
		<link>http://pueblonative.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/this-is-just-plain-jacked-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Denver Post &#8211; Lawyers awarded property next door
I think I&#8217;ve found a first.  This is the first story I&#8217;ve read today that makes all the child support stories (the &#8220;deadbeat dads&#8221;, the verbatum quotations of the law without any mercy for those who have fallen on hard times) seem reasonable and rational.  [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=180&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_7494276#72276">The Denver Post &#8211; Lawyers awarded property next door</a></p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve found a first.  This is the first story I&#8217;ve read today that makes all the child support stories (the &#8220;deadbeat dads&#8221;, the verbatum quotations of the law without any mercy for those who have fallen on hard times) seem reasonable and rational.  A judge used a legal loophole to steal the property of a couple because they had been trespassing right across it for 25 years.</p>
<p>And to make this even odder, even the citizens of the People&#8217;s Republic of Boulder are up in arms about this one (odd; the first time that I seen them up in arms when beer and football weren&#8217;t involved).  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, they should be.  This pretty much makes trespassing a reasonable way to acquire property at low cost.</p>
<p>Oh and yeah, the legal oversight committee won&#8217;t discipline them for ethics violations.  Sure, sure, Boulder&#8217;s version of CYA is in full effect. As one person suggested, I&#8217;d go over there with a backhoe and some salt.  Hell, now you have to wonder if you see a kid going across your lawn, do you call the police or take care of things yourself (I&#8217;m being sarcastic on the latter. . .well, mostly)?  You don&#8217;t let it go, at least not in the PRB.  It could end up being a land grab.</p>
<p>So to the Boulder City Council, keep telling yourselves that you&#8217;re really not four miles left of I25 and four miles left of reality.  You may believe it one day, even though nobody else will.</p>
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		<title>If you&#8217;re in Pennsylvania, do support this man!</title>
		<link>http://pueblonative.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/if-youre-in-pennsylvania-do-support-this-man/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Mark Spaid]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man vows to fight paternity statute &#124; Wilkes-Barre News &#124; timesleader.com &#8211; The Times Leader
Mark Spaid is fighting a centuries-old doctrine known as presumption of paternity.  Under this doctrine, a child is presumed to be that of the parents if it is born during a marriage so that &#8220;no child shall be made a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=179&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.timesleader.com/news/20071124_24spaid_tmb_1a_ART.html">Man vows to fight paternity statute | Wilkes-Barre News | timesleader.com &#8211; The Times Leader</a></p>
<p>Mark Spaid is fighting a centuries-old doctrine known as presumption of paternity.  Under this doctrine, a child is presumed to be that of the parents if it is born during a marriage so that &#8220;no child shall be made a bastard&#8221;.</p>
<p>And up to the modern era, the doctrine made sense to a certain degree.  With the only accurate test at the time being a blood test, you could have arguments about paternity go on and on and on with no real ending to it.</p>
<p>Of course, this is pre-DNA and pre genetic testing that can establish a child&#8217;s paternity to 99.999 percent certainty.  Yet like several other areas, the law has not caught up yet.  In fact, in this area, the law has not even gotten out of the starting gate.  One could make very wild speculations about the reasoning (irrational things like the state&#8217;s interest in a constant revenue flow), but the fact remains that this needs to be changed and people like Mr. Spaid should be applauded for their efforts.</p>
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		<title>Hilarious!  Just absolutely hilarious</title>
		<link>http://pueblonative.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/hilarious-just-absolutely-hilarious/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pueblonative</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[TheSpoof.com : Government to sell banking details of child support claimants to highest bidder to raise extra cash funny satire story
Warning: this is entirely satire.  However, do not pass this along to any CSE workers you know.  It might give them ideas, and to this lot ideas are like dynamite: dangerous and best [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=178&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<p>Warning: this is entirely satire.  However, do not pass this along to any CSE workers you know.  It might give them ideas, and to this lot ideas are like dynamite: dangerous and best kept from the hands of idiots.  I think I just found a new site to bookmark, and so should you!</p>
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		<title>Another slam against men</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pueblonative</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Marconette]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do Men Have the Right to an Abortion? &#124; RHRealityCheck.org
In typical fashion, Ms. Marconette mocks and then quickly writes off the notion that men have any sort of &#8220;choice&#8221;  when it comes to terminating their parenthood.  Let&#8217;s go down this point one by one:
1.  Ms. Marconette focuses merely on the physical aspects [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=177&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2007/11/19/do-men-have-the-right-to-an-abortion">Do Men Have the Right to an Abortion? | RHRealityCheck.org</a></p>
<p>In typical fashion, Ms. Marconette mocks and then quickly writes off the notion that men have any sort of &#8220;choice&#8221;  when it comes to terminating their parenthood.  Let&#8217;s go down this point one by one:</p>
<p>1.  Ms. Marconette focuses merely on the physical aspects of abortion (i.e &#8220;It&#8217;s based in the assumption that all people have that basic right to control their own body and their own fertility.&#8221;).  Yes, Ms. Marconette, and fertility doesn&#8217;t stop there.  Men have been granted the right to abortions before&#8211;in terms of being able to terminate implantation of a frozen egg.  By the way, those weren&#8217;t exactly &#8220;walks in the park&#8221;<br />
2.  Ms. Marconette ticks off the ways in which men can control their own parenting (&#8220;Men are not being blocked by anti-choice protesters, by state laws, by federal laws or by judgmental pharmacists from getting access to the tools to control their own fertility, from condoms to vasectomies&#8221;).  While failing to note that women have all of those options, if not more (IUD, the pill, the patch, the female condom, etc).  Plus, women have two additional options not easily available to men:</p>
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<li>They can physically abort easier than men.</li>
<li>They can either place the child up for adoption or &#8220;abandon&#8221; the child at a hospital fireplace or other designated stations (try this: have a man deliver a baby up to any of those places and say that he wants to give up his child.  If he doesn&#8217;t come away in handcuffs, I will definitely be surprised.).</li>
<p>We therefore have two options that men are not entitled to, yet Ms Marconette mocks these men as whiners when they try to exercise the only option that they have when they are denied the &#8220;advantages of living with the family&#8221;  (ie. being in a meaningful role for their children other than bank account and ATM).</p>
<p>I would encourage you to go there and comment for Ms. Marconette, as I have done in the example below:</p>
<blockquote><p>
After reading this column I have to thank you.  For far too long I have wondered about what example to give people when they want to know what fathers face from the family court.  Your pure, unbridled vitriol and hatred directed towards men who you pathetically term &#8220;whiners&#8221; is a beautiful example, and for that I thank you.  This is one column that I will definitely keep as a permalink for my readers to show them.  I am almost inclined to cite this as an example of extremist feminism and matriarchism in this country, but I wouldn&#8217;t want you to think you are more important than you really are.  Thanks for the hatred and the half-cocked opinions.
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		<title>Pimping to pay off the CSE &#8220;chlid pimps&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://pueblonative.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/pimping-to-pay-off-the-cse-chlid-pimps/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pueblonative</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Washington]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man who owes more than $70K in child support made some payments by pimping
All jokes aside, you can&#8217;t do that.  I would condone dealing drugs to pay off  child support before I condoned this garbage (in other words, a day after eternity).  And you certainly can&#8217;t pay off that debt by bullying, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=pueblonative.wordpress.com&blog=298159&post=176&subd=pueblonative&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/1120pimp-support1120-ON.html">Man who owes more than $70K in child support made some payments by pimping</a></p>
<p>All jokes aside, you can&#8217;t do that.  I would condone dealing drugs to pay off  child support before I condoned this garbage (in other words, a day after eternity).  And you certainly can&#8217;t pay off that debt by bullying, assaulting, and intimidating others.</p>
<p>As an aside, I wonder how many other people have been driven to illegal activities in order to pay off their child support?  Not that it&#8217;s okay, but you wonder if somebody is pushing dope or stealing in order to make those payments.  Well, maybe it is justified.  After all, it is the &#8220;best interests of the children.&#8221;</p>
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